New car radio/speakers question!?

Ben

I just bought a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and I'm thinking about getting a new radio and speakers for it. Here are the links:
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-629I-Two-Way-Speakers-Inch/dp/B0019G2HA0/ref=au_pf_ss_12?ie=UTF8&Make=Jeep|42&Model=Grand%20Cherokee|349&Year=2004|2004&carId=001&n=1077068&s=car

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ARSNT7Q/ref=s9_simh_gw_p422_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=0HKJ4YG7N8CSDRZ31M4N&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1630072202&pf_rd_i=507846

Im just wondering if these are 2 good options, also should I look into buying an amplifier to make the sound even better?

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I bought the non CD version of the JVC. I love it. The power is decent and it works with my Samsung Galaxy S4 for Bluetooth functionality for phone and Pandora. I think it is a steal at that price. A recommendation on speakers really depends on the vehicle itself. If a 6 inch speaker is all you can fit, those Infinities are probably as good as any. That said, don't expect anything close to bass as they are really just midrange speakers. A vehicle as large as yours would benefit from a second pair, preferably 6x9s in the back. If you are going to pay someone to install the system, take copies of the models you are looking at to Best Buy. They install and if they install it, the service should be from your car. If someone else installs you pay every time something has to come in or out of the car. Amplifiers always improve sound, especially if you have some larger speakers or 4 speakers. With just one pair of 6 inch speakers, save your money on the amp.

speaker / amplifier question...?

daonewithn

ok so heres my beef, i have a Technics SA-GX130 amplifier, plugged into 2 SK-101(C) speaker towers, which the max wattage on them is 80W peak. long story short, i blew one of the subs because I guess I turned up the amp a little too loud(thank you dubstep -.-). I'm now looking to replace the subs with something better.

I've been looking on craigslist and most of the subs i find are for cars which have higher wattage handling but lower Impedance. Through some research I've found that the Impedance on the speakers should be relative to the Impedance on the amp. The impedance on the amp is "8ohms each speaker" same as the Impedance on the tower speakers (though it should be lower now that the woofer is burnt and i had to take it out... right?), but the Impedance (dont ask me why i keep capitalizing "Impedance"... it just seems right) on the car subs is 4ohms per sub.

So that being said, does that mean that because the Impedance on the car subs is too low, will this be drawing too much from my amp causing it to overheat? or does the fact that I'm joining the speakers from the tower (tweeter and midrange) with the car woofers mean that this would compensate for the lower Impedance on the subs?? (i've done some reading on this and from what i understand, its ok if the Impedance in the speakers is higher than the amps)

and also, seeing how the peak wattage on the tweeter and midrange is 80w peak, and i plan on turning that sucker up since i'll have beefier woofers, would this burn out the the tweeter and mid??
(btw, the specks on the speakers which are on the back of the tower, are for all three combined I assume)

another possible option that i can think of is that, the amp has 2 sets of speaker outputs, so if i was to connect both subs to one channel, seeing how each sub is 4ohms, the 2 together would be 8ohms (or so is my understanding) would this be ok too? (only downside i can see from this is that i would have bass only one channel which might suck depending on the song)


anyways, those are my quetions, I'm a total speaker noob and I haven't found anything relating to my issue online, thanks alot for your input and thanks especially for reading my 20 page manuscript. PEACE
PS, the woofers that burnt were 10". same size as the ones i plan on putting in, and will be going into the same box unless i find some with their own box, in which case i might just leave the burnt woofers in their own box just for the sake of not having a giant hole and ruining the pressure of the box

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If you're looking on Craigslist I have to assume price is the most important factor in your decision or else you would be shopping at a place like parts express instead.
http://www.parts-express.com/
I have this advice for you. Speakers are not created equal and all have their individual characteristics. When you substitute an original speaker with a replacement that is not of the same type you change the characteristics of the whole unit. So you could end up with a speaker system that sounds better than it did new or one that sounds so bad you wonder why you even bothered to try. Also impedance is highly important so forget all of those 10" car subwoofers that are 4 ohms. If your system is 8 ohms then you need an 8 ohm speaker. Oh and yes a 4 ohm speaker will draw more current from the amp and if the amp wasn't designed for it, could cause it to shut down or burn out.

I also read your part about the amp having 2 sets of speaker outputs. Your assumption is WRONG. If you had 2 sets of 4 ohm speakers and had the amp set to play both outputs then the result would be 2 ohms and not 8. as the A/B switch usually parallels speakers.

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What are the average decibel levels of sony or any other popular stereo brand from 70's and 80's compared...? ?

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adrianna w

What are the average decibel levels of sony or any other popular stereo brand from 70's and 80's compared to modern stereos? I'm doing a research paper comparing old stereo systems to new ones and seeing if there is an increase in hearing damage in youth. I don't need to compare at what level they are listening to it at, I need some stats to back up some research. some numbers.

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Unclipped music shouldn't hurt your hearing until insane volumes. Low notes such as bass notes RARELY cause any permanent damage until above the 160db level for extended periods of time; however, the higher frequencies, about 150hz up can cause permanent damage at much lower levels. Clipped music is very dangerous for everything involved, from speakers and amps to the person who hears it. That is why sitting at a rock concert in front of huge speakers playing clipped guitars will hurt your ears and impair your hearing for far longer than a quality pair of headphones playing the studio version of the same song at the same volume. In terms of car audio, the volumes over the past 40 years have become far greater. The fact is I couldn't give you raw numbers even if we had them, because the tools used to measure them are far more accurate now then they were even ten years ago, let alone 30. However I feel safe to say that considering 3 db is about twice as loud, we must be at least a hundred times louder than we were then, probably more. Sorry but finding raw numbers from today is easy, finding them from the 70's is very doubtful. I will say that, due to the fact that our newer head units with cds are far better quality and less likely to be clipped than old 8 tracks, there is a good chance that the difference in hearing damage is minimal, regardless of far higher volumes.
By the way, this article might help you some, or at least make you appreciate car audio more.
http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/home/index.php/technical-info/35-forum-topics/95-car-audio-history-101

Is the Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 from the movie 2 fast 2 furious a Tommy Kraira or a MINE'S?

BlackLight

i know the car is an GT-R R34 but is it a Tommy Kraira or a MINE'S

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stock version.

No car has quite the same reputation as Nissan's Skyline GT-R. It's not officially sold in the United States, barely qualifies as compact, and is built with its steering wheel on the wrong side, but the all-wheel-drive, sequentially twin-turbocharged Skyline GT-R has managed to become a legend in America. That the producers of "2 Fast 2 Furious" ("2F2F") recognized that is at least somewhat encouraging--isn't it?

The Skylines used during filming were all R34s, a model introduced way back in 1998. Like other Skylines, the R34 is powered by a RB26DETT 2.6-liter, DOHC, 24-valve straight six sitting longitudinally in the engine bay that's force fed by twin turbos and rated at a laughingly low 280 hp. The R34's engine feeds a six-speed Getrag gearbox that in turn sends power to the ATTESA all-wheel-drive system, which electronically varies the torque split.

1999 Nissan Skyline Gtr R34 Rear Side View

Super HICAS four-wheel steering is also aboard and includes an electronic feedback control system to ensure precise wheel positioning under extreme circumstances. But the big change for the R34 from previous Skylines was a stiffened body shell and fresh aerodynamic design. This car has carbon-fiber under-car diffusers and a new rear wing.

In fact, the Skyline R34 is such an effective piece of technology, it was too good for movie work. All-wheel-drive supercars are quick and amazing to drive, but they're absolutely nonchalant about their work. It takes a rear-quarter hit by an out-of-control country squire to get an R34's tail to swing out dramatically, and burnouts are tough in a car with more traction than a Caterpillar D9. So the 2F2F transportation department excised the front driveshaft and disabled the Skyline's four-wheel steering so it could misbehave like a regular car.

1999 Nissan Skyline Gtr R34 Engine View

For its appearance on camera, the Skyline was encrusted within a C-West body kit, drenched in House of Kolor's platinum pearl paint and treated to a set of 19-inch HRE 446 polished wheels inside Toyo Proxes T1-S tires. Inside, the front passenger seat was ditched in favor of not one, not two, but three nitrous bottles--none of which are actually plumbed into the engine. Also thrown in is a Clarion head unit with LCD TV screen, a big JBL amp and Infinity speakers that actually seem to work. Of course, it also carries a bunch of blue neon and spits blue flame from its exhaust system.

As one of the two cars driven by too-pretty-for-a-guy hero Officer Brian O'Conner (Paul Walker), the Skyline, according to transportation coordinator Ted Moser, has 505 hp on tap and a hoarking 444 lb-ft of torque. In that "2F2F" alternate universe, that means this car rockets to 60 mph in just 4.1 seconds, consumes the quarter-mile in 12.1 seconds and has a top speed of 180 mph. Back on the actual planet Earth, the performance is still strong, but not quite as strong as fresher, intact R34s we've driven.

With Josh Jacquot doing his suave Paul Walker imitation, the Skyline, which is bone stock under the hood, groped its way through the quarter in 14.1 seconds at 101 mph--the third quickest car of the six included in this movie car test. With 22,254 km (13,797 miles) on its odometer, this car wasn't old, but it definitely had been beaten up pretty determinedly. Power output seemed down from other R34s, but a direct comparison is tough since the other R34s had the advantage of all-wheel-drive launches and didn't need a feathery throttle down the track. This car literally smoked its rear tires on every 1-2 upshift, which was cool to watch but certainly added time to each run. Its performance is also sabotaged by its big diameter wheels and the added heft of all the add-ons. The last stock R34 we drove hit 60 mph in just 5.07 seconds and crushed the quarter mile in 13.3 seconds at 103.7 mph.

1999 Nissan Skyline Gtr R34 Front Interior View

The lack of AWD and 4WS knocked the movie Skyline's performance to 0.91g on the skidpad, although we expected worse. The missing front differentials made the car much easier to drift, which is of course, the point, and we have to admit the car looked great doing it.

As for the brakes, they remain stock all around, and the ABS is intact. From 60 mph, this car stopped in 127 ft. Again, not a terrible performance, but not exactly what we've come to expect from a Skyline GT-R.

Overall, the Skyline turned out to be one of the better running and better sorted of the six cars. The driver's seat is a Sparco Milano and the additional gauges are HKS products."It's not too bad," Josh reported after his quarter-mile runs. "Now we know how a rear-wheel-drive R34 performs."

"2 Fast 2 Furious" Brian O'conner
1999 Nissan Skyline GT-R R34
Engine
Engine Code: RB26DETT
Type : In-line six, iron block, aluminum head, twin turbocharged and intercooled
Internal Modifications: None
External Modifications: K&N Ram Air system, HKS Titanium Exhaust, Turbonetic Intercooler

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