Showing posts with label speaker system vs home theater. Show all posts
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Sunday, January 19, 2014

Is there a limit to how little i should spend on a receiver?

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Blake


So ive been looking for an inexpensive and most likely used receiver for my small home theater room but i want it to push my speakers to their maximum potential and i really want to avoid clipping at high volume. basically i just want the system to sound great and i would like to be able to turn it up insanely loud without a problem. I dont want to go much over $150 but am afraid to go below $80. Is there a limit to how little i should spend? and also how many watts per channel is needed for bookshelf speakers? Thanks.


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For insanely loud, a $150 receiver is not likely to cut it. Maybe used, if it was a VERY powerful receiver in it's day.

One option would be to add a two channel external amp, but that would only cover the front 2 channels. They can be had for $200 maybe (200x2 watts.) But cheaper receivers lack pre outs needed to use an external amp easily (there are workarounds such as speaker to line level converters, but it seems like a pain to me to go that route.)

Some rough idea of SPL vs power -

If you have nominal sensitivity for your bookshelf speakers, you can do 90 dB SPL one meter from the speakers with only one watt of input. But that declines quickly. Figure at least a 6 dB loss at your listening position. And double the power for each 3 dB SPL. So maybe 4 watts to manage 90 dB at your listening position. 16 watts to manage 96 dB.

So it would seem like any old receiver could manage 96 dB. But cheaper receivers seem to run out of power pretty quickly in real world situations.

I recommend at least Yamaha's 500 series models. It used to be that the 600 series were better. You can find last years models well discounted. So for a new receiver that I thought was decent, but a bit outdated, I seem to recall more like $400. Which is well over your budget.

If buying new, and buying the cheapest receivers, assume a lot of compromises were made especially to the receiver's power supply. If buying used receivers that were midrange for their time, just make sure they are fully functional, and support any needed technologies like HDMI.

Good luck

Can I Hook Up PC Speakers to My TV via an RCA Adapter?




T L


Hello,

Can I take my PC speakers that are fairly decent and hook them up to my TV using a RCA Adapter? (Male RCA >> Female 3.5mm)

I am just wondering because I am not in the ballpark for a full blown Home Theater system, but I do want to add a bit of range to the current speakers embedded in the TV. (TV = Panasonic VIERA LCD)

Ok, any answers would be great. Thanks.



Answer
The issue isn't the connector, it's whether the speakers have a built in amp. If they are PC speakers, as you claim, they do ... and therefore you should be able to use any adapter that maintains the stereo connection (e.g. RCA >> 3.5 mm mini stereo). Note that some PC speakers are reasonable fidelity, so depending on the speakers you have they may be better than the built in ones on the TV (But may not). If you use them, you may wish to set the menu on the TV so the audio output is variable (vs fixed) and turn up the PC speakers ... that way the TV remote will control the volume of the external PC speakers.




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Sunday, December 1, 2013

What is the best home theater in-a-box for under $500?

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Joe.R


If this includes a Blu-Ray player, or has one built in, I will go up to $700.
Bonus question: What is the new standard for surround sound? When I stopped following this stuff in the early 2000's it was 5.1 channels. That's what most DVDs supported, and that is the amount of speakers most home theater systems had. Is it now 7.1 speakers or more?



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All-in-one kits with a built-in DVD or BD player are not good. You do seem to get a lot of toys, but the basics are missing: Quality amplification = No. Variety of inputs = No. Upgradeable components = No. You'd be far better off looking at a Blu-ray player + AV Receiver + 5.1 speaker package (satellites & active sub).

Firstly the Blu-ray player. You've allocated up to $200 for this. For under $150 you can have a Panasonic or Sony 3D Blu-ray player with wireless networking. If you are not bothered about 3D and have no plans to change your TV for a 3D capable one in the near future then save some bucks here and just go for a basic one, but the price difference is shrinking all the time so the saving might be less than $20 so why not have the 3D player anyway. There's no issue mixing brands either between the BD player and the audio gear.

As for home cinema kits, Onkyo and Denon and Yamaha all make packages with decent AV Receivers and speaker kits as a bundle. Most are 3D capable, and a few are 7.1. My view on 5.1 vs 7.1 is go for it if you have an unlimited budget and a really big room. However, if you're working to a strict budget then it's better to do 5.1 well than stretch things and do 7.1 badly.

New sound formats - The important ones for performance are DTS-Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD for Blu-ray audio, and Dolby ProLogicII (DPLII) for any stereo sources you want to have in surround. All of the kits I'll recommend do these formats.

ARC - Audio Return Channel. This is new feature added in the latest version of HDMI - the 1.4 version. If your TV and AV Receiver have the ARC feature then you no longer need an optical connection to get sound from the TV back to the surround kit. The HDMI cable will carry sound back.

Other things to consider... Blu-ray players often have streaming features (YouTube etc) and also require periodic firmware updates to cope with new encoding and features on discs. This is done via the net. A wired network connection is best but wireless will do too. There's also a good chance that the receiver you get might have internet radio or AirPlay. Once again a wired network connection back to your wireless router will allow you to access thousands of internet radio stations and enable you to stream music from your WiFi connected smartphone or tablet to the receiver.

Traps to avoid: "Super performance" HDMI cables. The HDMI connections from your Blu-ray player to the AV Receiver, and from the Receiver to the TV don't need $50 cables. As long as the cable is rated High Speed and meets the HDMI 1.4 spec and is of decent construction then all will be well. Avoid the cheapest the Ebay or the web has to offer. Those really tend to be crappy. $10 is a reasonable amount for a 3-5 ft cable.

All the following have HD audio decoding, DPLII

Yamaha YHT397BL - simple 5.1 surround system sold via the electrical barns. 3D and with ARC. $449

Yamaha YHT497BL - alternative to 397 - sold via specialist dealers. $430-£479. The 397 has the same basic spec but better speakers.

Yamaha YHT597BL - step-up model with net radio, AirPlay, Yamaha SmartPhone app (Android & Apple) which works remarkably well. $549

Onkyo HTS3500 - simple 5.1 surround system sold via the electrical barns. 3D and with ARC. Passive sub to keep costs down. $399

Onkyo HTS5500 - step-up model - 7.1 surround system, more power, better speakers, smarter auto set-up system (Audyssey 2). $599

Denon DHT-1513BA - pitched at the upgrader market - Better amp (discrete channels) and packaged with a 3rd party speaker kit from specialist manufacturer Boston Acoustics. The spec won't look as impressive but trust me, this kit is all about performance rather than bling. $599

Hope this helps :-)

What is the best way to power a pair of quality stereo speakers?




Phil McCra


I plan on running a pair of Paradigm Mini's through my Onkyo home theater receiver.

I keep reading that maybe the home theater receiver is not the best way to power a pair of good speakers.

What is the best way to drive a pair of speakers for the best possible sound reproduction?

I keep hearing the terms tube amp, amp, etc.

How would you do it?

If you power them up via an Onkyo HT receiver, would the difference really not make a difference?

Thanks



Answer
Your Onkyo receiver is a good quality "solid state" amp that will work just fine powering those speakers. Which are very good bookshelf speakers, by the way.

Audio Tube amps are the realm of high-end audiophile sound systems. Once apon a time all amps were vacuum tube-driven, until the invention of the solid state transistor.

The debate of tube vs solid state is fierce and can often turn volatile, so I won't even start THAT debate here.

But for your purposes, that Onkyo will do fine for now. If you're looking for a good return on your money for improved sound, start first with a good powered sub-woofer. Those Minis are good speakers, but your missing out on a whole lot of bottom end without a sub.

Look a Paradigm, Hsu, SVS, and Velodine manufacturers.




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